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I've been thinking about it lately.

Recently I went through my old fic and f-locked a lot of it. Most of the stuff I f-locked was slash. Some of the slash is still open, never fear! It was just... the really weird ones, I guess. And the ones that I look back on and wince. I once swore I'd never lock away my fic, but hey, times change, so do people.

Those of you who've been with this journal a long time know, I used to love slash. It was maybe 80% of what I wrote, with femslash and het and gen filling in the last 20%. My newer friends know me as someone who might occasionally express an interest but would never write or roleplay it. Unless it was canon. I'm a canon relationships stickler.

But looking through my old stuff, well, some of it is good. That Tim/Bart fic where I taught the world about Hannukah, for instance, or my epic and hilarious all-dialogue Cable/Deadpool porn fic. I still enjoy the times I played with tropes, like the dubcon Tim/Bernard sexpollen fic or the Pink Kryptonite Madness fic. I like my four weird and porny Silver Age fics. I'm annoyed that I inserted Tim/Bart into everything to make it count for my [livejournal.com profile] fanfic100 table, which will probably forever remain at 90/100 finished. I like that I played with noncanon pairings and made them work.

But I love canon. If my fic dumps on or ignores canon pairings, I'm doing it wrong. I have trouble writing Tim/Kon because I love Kon/Cassie, and though I do see the sexual tension, how can I do that to his girlfriend?

And I get annoyed when people act like it's completely obvious that character x (usually Tim) is gay. Tumblr does this a lot. I see so many posts that are like, "Oh look, it's boyfriends Tim and Kon!" I'm all for pointing out the hurr hurr subtext or doing sexy fanart, but the fact of the matter is, canonically Tim and Kon are not boyfriends and they never will be. The worst was when someone posted a beautiful Tim/Cissie picture to Tumblr and captioned it "Cissie and gay best friend." It really pissed me off.

And now I'm in Buffy fandom, and sometimes I hide my former slashy ways. Slashing in Buffy fandom for me is a lot harder than slashing in DC. If Dick Grayson's bisexual, they wouldn't come out and say it for various political reasons that all start with "Wertham" and end with "Batman/Robin" and plus, huge risk on a character that popular. In Buffy fandom... well, I feel like the characters would admit to it. Willow's gay, of course, and Andrew never really admits it, but it's clear that he is, though I don't think even he knows it. One of the popular characters to slash is Spike, my favorite, but he is... kind of obsessive about women. I can't see him as gay, and I think if he were gay, he wouldn't hesitate to be obvious about it. The thing about being evil is you don't care about right and wrong. If he wanted to shag guys left and right, he'd do it, even in the 19th century. And hell, he canonically did have a one time with Angel. But I don't really see him having a thing for Wesley or Xander or Giles. Or, I don't see him having a thing for any of them and not acting on it. I mean, he's not really subtle.

That being said, I kind of want to write some Spike/Angel and do it right. Because I could do it a damn sight better than most people who write it. (For one thing, never once would the word "Peaches" be uttered unless describing a fruit). I've also always sort of wanted to write Spike/Buffy/Angel. I think it could be interesting. I like all three dynamics. Even Buffy/Angel. Sort of. Sometimes.

I guess the part that bugs me most is the people who like slash exclusively. But I've felt the same about people who only like het in the past, so the moral of the story is variety is good? I think I've pretty much decided that I should go back to being the Shana that doesn't give a damn what other people think. I'll write what I want, and it'll be awesome.

Date: 2011-01-03 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milleniumrex.livejournal.com
I could see Spike calling Angel "Peaches" because he knows it'll bug the hell out of him. :D

I remember some of those fics. I loved that Hannukah one, and the pink Kryptonite one was hilarious.

I know what you mean about people being overly defensive of slash pairings, almost insisting that they're canon. As someone who writes both femslash and het, often with the same female characters (only a little slash, but that's just more because I prefer to write female characters overall), I try to keep an open mind about pairings and keep in mind that they're just my fanon.

Oh, and hi. :D

Date: 2011-01-03 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] museofspeed.livejournal.com
Hi there!

You are totally not in the crazy people category! You're like me... except opposite, since I'm more males, I guess. I write predominantly het and slash, but I do love femslash, and do some of that too? I don't write much at all these days, siiiigh.

Hee, thanks!

Oh, that was my jibe at Buffy fandom. Yes, Spike could call Angel "Peaches." In fact he does. Once. When drunk and annoyed at him. And fandom picked it up and ran with it, and now almost every fic where Spike so much as mentions Angel uses it. It is not Spike's nickname for Angel. If Spike said to Buffy, "Oh, Peaches called!" Buffy would go, "Huh?" But fandom is strange.

Date: 2011-01-03 05:14 am (UTC)
the: (timey ☛ amy ( the girl who waited ))
From: [personal profile] the
Aww, Tim and Cissie.

/contributes to this entry in no way

Date: 2011-01-03 05:20 am (UTC)
bigbad: ([Fire] smoking)
From: [personal profile] bigbad
What wrong account? This is clearly my normal account.

You know Tim and Cissie? Pink, do you secretly like Young Justice? ...or is the picture just cute?

Date: 2011-01-03 05:23 am (UTC)
the: (showy ☛ brittany ( express yourself ))
From: [personal profile] the
I used to read Teen Titans when I got my comics for free. I would still if I weren't cheap!

Date: 2011-01-03 05:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] museofspeed.livejournal.com
WHEN DID YOU GET COMICS FOR FREE? I think I hate you.

Date: 2011-01-03 05:30 am (UTC)
the: (champion ☛ illyria ( more violence ))
From: [personal profile] the
Back when we used to go out for dinner with a wealthy friend, we'd always stop at the magazine place first. I was all about the Cosmo and comic books.

Date: 2011-01-03 06:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] museofspeed.livejournal.com
I want a wealthy friend to buy me comics! That's very cool.
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Date: 2011-01-03 06:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] museofspeed.livejournal.com
I see Tim as being very head-based. His romances are much more intellectual than sexual, though I don't think he's asexual, and he picks his mates thoughtfully. See this fic. (http://romantic.frenchboys.net/petra/dcpotential.html) I think I could definitely see him falling for the right guy or the right girl. I'd probably put him slightly further on the het side, but I don't think he'd have any extra qualms about going for a guy. do it do it do it

Yes! I love me some friendships. I mean, in my single ever foray into Tim/Dick, that's... pretty much what Dick told Tim. You can ship anyone. But having an awesome friendship? That's better than romance, in some ways.

Aahahah I like teal deers. They're pretty.
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Date: 2011-01-05 05:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] museofspeed.livejournal.com
I LIKE YOUR RAMBLING, IT'S COOL. And yes, that chart is amazing.

And, hmmm, I like that. It's true that he's never been an overly sexual character. Probably since he's been underage for twenty years or so.

Date: 2011-01-05 12:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pikakao.livejournal.com
Hahaha, I agree in many ways but partially because I'm sick of how the internet all of a sudden loves Kon/Tim and I just... I'm such a bitter oldfag when it comes to comics now. For me it was always "anything goes if the personalities mesh somehow" (since in comics everybody and anybody can meet each other at any minute) and the crazy pairings were tongue in cheek, but there are certain things too that you just can't deny like that. Like Dick/Babs, and Bruce/Selena. Yeah, Bruce/Clark is interesting but hot damn Bruce/Selena. :,3 ♥

Date: 2011-01-05 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] museofspeed.livejournal.com
Ugh, I know, right? I'm not opposed to Tim/Kon, but seriously, internet, get over yourself. I've kind of moved on to Buffy fandom lately. I don't know why, it's my new big thing, I guess.

...and yes. Mmmm, Selina/Bruce.

(And Clark/Lois. I LOVE LOIS.)

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